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William S Barnett's avatar

The Wainer et al. paper cited states " The 2024 NAEP fourth-grade mathematics scores rank the state at a tie at 50th." When I look at the NAEP Snapshot for MS 4th grade math, I find that MS scores above the national average, lower than just 4 states and significantly higher than 18 states. Am I missing something? If not, it seems they owe MS a correction and apology.

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Was surprised to see I was on Team Optimism! It's not how I feel! Team Nuanced perhaps? ;)

Nat's quote of mine was from an Education Next What's Next article I did a while back about AI -- and how students are much more anxious about it than folks might expect. I like how he said it was on the "closer to the excited side" -- but I don't think it's cheerleading.

Here's one of my takes at the moment, for example, on all of this, from Allison's Salisbury's Substack (https://humanistxyz.substack.com/p/michael-horn-on-how-ai-will-rewrite):

"ALLISON: When parents ask you what their kids should be learning to thrive in 10 to 15 years, what do you tell them?

MICHAEL: If we are being honest, we must admit that no one truly knows. Realistically, the K–5, maybe K–8 sequence won’t change much. Foundational knowledge, skills, and socialization remain essential, and we still need to strengthen them. Reading, writing, numeracy, civics, history, and shared cultural understanding are all still critical. I wouldn’t back off any of that.

I have been puzzling over the speed of knowledge acquisition. We know humans learn best through stories, so I wonder if we could structure learning around narrative arcs to accelerate mastery of these fundamentals.

What should change in middle and high school is greater exposure to occupational pathways and possibilities. Too many students graduate without knowing what kinds of work energize or drain them. A series of short sprints or hands-on experiences across fields could be transformative in helping them develop that awareness. We need to do a better job of helping students explore the wide possibilities that their lives hold."

Just to wrap the point, Mike -- and thank you again for doing this newsletter — I guess I'd say that I think AI should be a tool in the latter. And purposeful learning opportunities (like Amira Learning, for example, or CourseMojo) built on top of AI could be part of the former.

My gut instinct though? Most schools will do what they've always done with tech. Layer it on top and see very little if any benefits.

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